They lie, deleting our comments and links, claiming that our input was not rooted in science. Liars!
We won't be silenced by those who won't be silenced. Quis custurd pudding et π.
Wednesday, 17 April 2013
National Resource Centre on AD/HD lying to kids about cannabis. NIDA lying.
They lie to kids, we respond by posting links to articles rooted in good science.
Wednesday, 27 March 2013
Joel Dalais, Clear, Cocaine donors, remorse, pulp fiction, Peter Reynolds.
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- Cannabis for Autism Joel Dalais, You have the right to respond. Do not post links to .pdfs which may contain malicious code on this page. Put together and article and ask Alan Wylie to put it online on Politics.eu and we will link it there. Let's see a level playing field. Thank you. Any more posting of potential malicious .pdfs will leave me with not choice but to externalise your membership of this page. Thank you and enjoy cocaine if you must, don't be ashamed. I don't do it, I'm already arrogant enough. I use yoga and ganja to go the other way, but we all have different needs.
- Joel Dalais Cannabis for Autism, either you have been duped, or you are part of their conspiracy. I suggest you read it as it has rather interesting ramifications. If you wish I can email you a copy, as I have done others. The file contains all the missing emails, and details how they contacted the police, crimestoppers, and are in breech of multiple criminal laws and civil laws. I am sure you have only been duped by these prohibitionists, as such, I suggest that tomorrow you have a read and wake up.
- Cannabis for Autism I'm not part of any conspiracy other than the conspiracy to end the conspiracy to criminalise cannabis users and other drugs users.
Look up 'leaderless resistance', I am a complete tart, loyal to no one but the children and adults with autism whom I am attempting to help as a matter of dire urgency.
The website you pointed me too asked me to download an .exe file. Have you any idea how that looks to a linux user with over 9000 hours software house experience?
Just message the damn document to the page and I will read it.
And stop being silly with the legal threat talk. It's bollocks. - Joel Dalais "the conspiracy to criminalise cannabis users and other drugs users." ~ I really suggest you read who you're fighting for. It's actually a pdf file, yes it gives a warning, but yes it's perfectly safe. And yes I can email you a copy if you prefer.
- Cannabis for Autism Message the text and the pictures in order to the page. I will read it in that form thanks.
- Joel Dalais I am actually being 100% honest here, and not trying to give a virus, or any crap like that. It is clearer now to me, I do think that you have just been duped and are not part of them. Let me be brief then, the pdf shows all the missing emails that were also sent and links the PRW and certain people involved. It has been my duty to wake people up to the lies of the government, but part of that is to wake people up to their various agents working within our midst. I will leave you to decide to read it or not, it is perfectly safe to download. And I commend that you are 'leaderless resistance, loyal only to those with autism', I applaud this. I can't msg it to this page, as it is rather extensive. But I can happily email it to any address you wish.
- Cannabis for Autism Honestly, if you want to engage in writing cheap gay spy novels, why don't you go on nation states and find your forum? The imaginations and eloquences of those guys are out of this world.
- Joel Dalais And just to clarify - it details a 3 month planned setup (for cocaine, as you know this part), an attempt at entrapment, using a child/minors personal identifying information (full name, email, IP address (which means anyone can get the normal address)), reporting (via emails) to various police forces and crimestoppers (why crimestoppers you wonder? there are reasons that I suspect which are in the pdf), and reporting to the electoral commission. All the evidence is there, and they nicely made sure that copies of all the evidence went other places also. You state "the conspiracy to criminalise cannabis users and other drugs users." Please check what is there. Also please note, I am NOT (at this time) seeking any legal action, but I am not 'nice' like Mr Reynolds (who only seeks a public apology for their attacks against him).
- Cannabis for Autism I don't give out my email address to fans of the page. I have to think of my own security. Why risk my security for the sake of the vanity of a 'political party' with whom I simply do not feel attracted to the ideal of 'partying with' your party. Aesthetically, the Clear campaign gives me indigestion. I am very sensitive to information. Just.... ewwww. Got it?
- Joel Dalais I am not stopping you standing by these prohibitionists. And I am not stopping you from getting or not, information to help you see what is really going on. This is entirely your choice. I am just here to wake people up. The exposing will continue regardless.
- Cannabis for Autism Have you seen the screenshot of PR threatening me? I did not fake it. It is real. There is no conspiracy, just some NPT on the loose in your ranks.
Saturday, 16 March 2013
Asperger's Sycophancy Network
Saturday, 2 March 2013
- WednesdayDerek Williams
- Hi CfA
This post is confidential and not to be shared on any other forum, as with any private post I might send to you. Just thought I'd make that clear, just in case.
You posted a comment to ourTokepure page asking why don't we quit because there is another page called tokepure which you think is better. I hope you'll understand why I deleted your comment when I tell you Toke pure was started by me in 2001 on my site UKCIA. It was taken up with my involvement by CLEAR last year. I have been trying to get the tokepure message out - using the name tokepure - for 14 years now, so I'm not about to stop just because someone (and I know who it is) put a page up with the same name.
Anyway, this page is better.
So instead of making comments like you did, which is pretty rude at best, how about helping us make the page better?
Derek - (UKCIA and CLEAR).
PS glad you liked the Victor Lacata article I posted to UKCIA
- WednesdayCannabis for Autism
- No, I meant the larger older version was better, I was telling the new one to quit! Looking back, I can see it was totally ambiguous. I commented on that post before I read this message, so I guess I read your mind.
There are 3 admins for C4A and they can all read these messages so I can't guarantee it's privacy but I'm sure the others will respect it.
I will help to annoy the new toke pure if you want help? As for the toke pure wider campaign, I think I said all I can to help in the reply to the comment.
Victor Lacate - Yes, I post articles that are good and it was good. I had the option to ignore your version and link straight to the original version but yours had corrections so it was a better read. Credit where credit is due.
You do realise that PR has passed the point of no return with his snitching and empty legal bullying, don't you?
Have you anything to say about the grassing? He grassed on medical cannabis users. That's not something that can ever be forgiven in these circles and you'd do well to distance yourself from him,
He has narcissistic personality disorder traits, imo. You are a nice man, he will take advantage, protect yourself against PR if you can.
oh, about the asperger's - even if I do help you, and we become best of friends, even if I try really hard, my 'rudeness' will never totally go away. It's my special power. I use it wisely, and foolishly, and happily, but I cannot simply switch it off unless i one day find a lifetime's supply of the right kind of cannabis.
- WednesdayDerek Williams
- Ah Aspergers I work in a college and have a lot of contact with AS students, several have ended up as real star achievers.
As regards PR, he hasn't ever "grassed" on a medical user, not for being a cannabis user. I've seen a lot of what's been going down and medical canna user or not, these people have been nasty, vicious and really spiteful. I've been on the receiving end of some of this as well actually so I'm afraid I have no sympathy. Being a medical canna user doesn't excuse you for such behaviour. I don't mind being attacked for the campaigning things we or I do, but personal attacks like we've seen are just out of order.
I know PR quite well now and I can tell you he has worked tirelessly for cannabis law reform over the past 18 months or so I've known him.
See thing is I've been around this law reform campaign myself for about 20 years - since 1992 properly. So I know quite a few of the people involved in all this nastiness. I know them as being people who have argued amongst themselves, disrupted and held this campaign back for years.
The Victor Lacata article was a hell of a lot of work to edit. Originally I was just going to mirror Andy's site but, well, the formatting was all over the place and the style made it so hard to read, which was a real pity because the work had been done and the content is really good. It took weeks but I think it was worth it.
Onwards
- YesterdayCannabis for Autism
- Yes I look back in fondness at all my star achievements since college. I never considered straight-A's to be amongst them. I prefer dancing but in the real world the sums have to add up.
What Peter seems to fail to understand, is that his job as leader of the cannabis law reform party is not to use any and all legal options or threats of options against anyone who appears to be questioning him in any way, but to try to lead a group (because most legs wins) which is trying to change the law of the land such that people can get reasonable access to cannabis.
He *is* a grass, I know because he told me so himself. Whether he's cheated and sinned, or just coincidently looked like a cheater whilst actually doing everything in a fair manner, makes no difference. The Clear brand is toxic so long as that man leads it.
Onwards!
- 15 hours agoDerek Williams
- Hi CfA
To be fair, PR hasn't "use(d) any and all legal options or threats of options against anyone who appears to be questioning him in any way". What he's endured over the past year has been a nasty, spiteful and viscous series of personal attacks. Honest, I've seen it at first hand and it goes way, way beyond simple questioning. Yes, he's using legal action against the worst offenders, but they deserve it frankly.
I don't see any problem with using the law to defend yourself against such attacks. That isn't "grassing", it's not informing the police about someone doing a grow or whatever.
I'm not a canna user, but when I was I never ever considered myself a criminal and more than that I never thought like a criminal. Sure, I was in conflict with the law when it came to canna use (and perhaps a few other drugs), but not in any other way. From what you're writing you sound like you're thinking as a a criminal, with the values of a criminal. That's not good.
PR's job is to run a canna law reform group. That's all, nothing more and to he honest, he's bloody good at it. The CLEAR brand is not toxic outside of a small group of questionable activists with a track record of disruptive ineffectiveness.
- 3 hours agoDerek Williams
- Not sure I understand the point you're making there CfA, that's off at a complete tangent.
There is all the world of difference between criticism and repeated - I would say obsessive - personal attacks, which is what PR has endured from a group of people over the past year. The only and correct way to deal with vindictive harassment like that is through legal channels. At one point the website was stolen and our members were getting blackmailed, it was serious stuff.
What would you do if you were to focus of a personal attack like this I wonder? I hope for your sake it never happens to you.
- 3 hours agoCannabis for Autism
- Derek.
I just sent you a screenshot.
It is a screenshot of a message sent by Peter, to Me.
He clearly states that he has reported actions of mine to the police.
Peter Reynolds Grassed on ME and I know because HE TOLD ME HIMSELF.
Read it properly. I run a text base service here. How can we communicate if you won't read?
- 2 hours agoCannabis for Autism
- 2 hours agoDerek Williams
- Hi Julian - I assume that is your real name? It's fair enough that I know that, you of course know I am Derek. I prefer to use real names.
There is nothing in that screenshot to imply PR "grassed" on you whatsoever. The incident PR is talking about happened during the Corby election and he was entirely right to complain formally about it.
Why do you think it's "grassing" on you? I really don't follow your logic, honest.
What I would also say is many of the other people commenting on that first thread you sent are connected with - and some at the root of - the the hate campaign PR has endured for the past year.
- 2 hours agoCannabis for Autism
- Derek I have been working under the assumption that you know that I am Julian Pursell. Let me remind you who I am:
I am on CLEAR's very first leaflet - I am the 38 year old with Asperger's.
I am a self employed yoga teacher. MY yoga business is called CLEAR YOGA and has a simple green and white design. It was the inspiration for CLEAR - Cannabis Law Reform (I am not saying it was stolen or wrong, clever re-use by Peter, but just so you know - I was the inspiration for your party colours and name).
- 2 hours agoCannabis for Autism
- "your name and actions are now being reported to [Northamptonshire Police] as well"
Derek, if I have misunderstood, please tell me what he meant by that?
- 2 hours agoDerek Williams
- It was referring to an incident caused by Stuart Wyatt who posted various comments claiming PR was drunk while campaigning in the Corby election. Stuart has been one of the worse harassers, he is one of the people I have known for several years as a troll and troublemaker. You joined in those accusations which PR had explained to you had been reported to the plod.
Frankly I think PR explained the situation quite calmly and rationally to you in the first comment of those two.
You weren't reported for your cannabis work, but for disrupting the election campaign, which is a specific offense under the representation of the people act. What is unreasonable about that? But to be honest I don't think he did actually report you.
- 2 hours agoDerek Williams
- Actually, a more general point. Beware of text-based communications like e-mail and FB threads. They are stripped of some very important elements we take for granted in verbal communication. I think you have misunderstood what happened, and you've been encouraged to do so by the troublemakers.
- 2 hours agoCannabis for Autism
- Derek, he grassed on me, or threatened to grass on me. Whether it is for cannabis or some other offence makes no difference. He put me in fear of a visit from the police whether he was bluffing or not.
For that, he is on my 'Naughty Step'.
Do you even know what my comment was supposed to have been? On the you tube video? Have you got a copy of it handy?
- 2 hours agoCannabis for Autism
- I have not had any assistance in interpreting these events. Unlike you and peter, who collude (I know because I can tell from the vocabulary you use when describing the 'nefarious' actions of others - all peter's words originally).
If you could just send me a message regarding the actions of those others, but in your own words entirely, I might be less suspicious that you might be under the control of Peter in some subtle way which you don't quite understand. As it stands, I can compare your comment to comments peter has made and find no difference in key adjectives and adverbs. Fridge magnets.
- about an hour agoDerek Williams
- Julian - in the first link to the blog you sent you are there with all the others who have blatantly given you encouragement.
As regards what you say here
"Derek, he grassed on me, or threatened to grass on me. Whether it is for cannabis or some other offence makes no difference."
Sorry, but it does, it makes all the world of difference. Take an extreme example to illustrate why that is true: If you had killed someone, surly it would be right to "grass" on you? So if that is right, where do you draw the line? Is it right to report someone who assaults a person? Or intimidates a person? Is it right to report someone who harasses a person? Yes it is.- This is what I mean by behaving like a criminal. A criminal will regard all use of the police and laws to be wrong. As I said, I am not a criminal and do not think like a criminal. We all agree that your use of cannabis is not a crime and no-one would report you to the law for doing that, but anything else is fair game, being a cannabis user doesn't grant you licence to break other laws.
Hey look, trust me I have had differences of opinion with Peter and on occasion we have had - let's say "robust and frank discussions" - about things. I don't mind that sort of thing because I give as good as I get.
- about an hour agoCannabis for Autism
- Derek all those people's comments came after I had dealt with Peter in my own way. Part of the way we (vulnerable people such as the autistic) are taught to deal with perceived bullying threats and 'emotional vampires' is to make sure some people are told about the perceived predator in our midst. Monkeys do this too, it's nothing new or particularly hi-tech, it's just that it looks different online to how it does in a tree or a playground.
Derek, let's stick to the case in point.
I only break the cannabis law. Otherwise, I am interested in being completely law-abiding and peaceful. I don't believe in litigation, I believe in robust and frank public discourse judged by peers.
Cannabis is not a crime, so grassing on cannabis users is bollox.
Calling out a social predator is not a crime, so him threatening to grass is just the predator trying to hurt the one who is raising the alarm. For that, he is, in my opinion, 'A wrong un'.
I only break the cannabis law. Otherwise, I am interested in being completely law-abiding and peaceful. I don't believe in litigation, I believe in robust and frank public discourse judged by peers.
If I had murdered some innocent people and Peter saw it and called the police then I would say fair game, but that's not what happened here. I'm a disabled medical cannabis user, not a murderer.
I've never ever been done for assault, unlike your friend.
- 5 minutes agoDerek Williams
- Intimidation, threats and the like is a crime Justin, and there has been a lot of that.
PR has never been "done for assault", he was accused of it but that's not the same thing. Again, you're repeating the claims made by these people as a fact and it isn't and you really can't go around putting that sort of thing in writing.
Like I say, I work with AS kids as a part of my job and I am aware of the issues you face. But equally you have to bear in mind that when you communicate with people like this, in text, the other person is totally unaware of your situation and cannot be expected to make any allowances for you and really, why should they be expected to?
Now AS people are not the best communicators in the world so I would suggest that it's probably not a good idea to get into disputes with people in forums like this. Actually it's not a good idea for most people to do that, text is not a good communication medium on its own. Please believe me you are making 1+1=3 a bit.
Let's set something out clearly. No-one is out to get you or to bring you legal grief. But defending yourself with the law against intimidation and attack is perfectly right and correct. It is not "grassing" to go to law against people who do that.
I know a lot of AS people use cannabis incidentally, so I do support the cause you represent and I want to help you get the message out. Please don't pick fights with us in CLEAR.
- 3 minutes agoCannabis for Autism
- *Julian
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